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The Growlery - Voynich, Bacon, and me
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Voynich, Bacon, and me
So, my Voynich experience was quite neat. The filming took place at Hart House at U of T on Saturday afternoon, in one of those rooms that actually looks the way university offices are portrayed in the movies, with book-lined shelves and old wooden desks and whatnot. I was imagining a larger production crew, but really I was glad when it turned out to just be the director, story producer, cameraman, sound guy, and a production assistant. I was very slightly alarmed the night before when the producer emailed me to say she wanted to make the questions she had sent more exciting, but those fears turned out to be unfounded - it was mostly just a matter of rephrasing them. My concern that I didn't (and don't) consider myself to be a Voynich expert was alleviated greatly by the fact that the guy they were filming before me (a cryptographer) was even less familiar with the VM than I am.

The actual interview was mostly her bouncing questions off me and me rephrasing them in the form of answers that will eventually make sense when the questions are taken out - it's not an interview, just a way of setting up me as a talking-head expert. A lot of the questions were about language and writing in general - how we rule out the possibility that it records an extinct language (we can't), what features about it capture the attention of scholars (the fact that it looks so close to written language, for instance), and some of the barriers to decipherment if it were real. Others were about reasons we think it might be a hoax - the odd repetitions, the unusual distribution of word lengths, etc. I'm comfortable with everything I said - bearing in mind that they recorded me for a couple of hours and probably I'll only be on the final show for a minute or two, and so how I come off on TV will depend on what bits of my blather get picked. I do anticipate getting emails from the fringe-y people, but I knew that going into the affair.

And that's that, except that while I was there, I learned that apparently (because it's not listed anywhere on the Internet or anywhere else, so take it with a grain of salt) the show will be hosted by WILLIAM FREAKIN' SHATNER, not that I got to meet him or have any contact with him, but if that turns out to be true, I'll have a Bacon number of 3. I'm hoping to get myself an Erdös number in the next few years as well, because I know a bunch of mathematicians, in which case I may become a member of a small club of holders of a non-infinite Erdös-Bacon number (probably 6 or 7).

Oh yeah, and also, I'll be on TV. Details to come.

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athelind From: [info]athelind Date: January 18th, 2010 09:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
I hope someone on the show mentions the xkcd theory.

Oh, and as of Friday night, I have a Bacon Number of 2: one of the customers at the comic store where I currently work was an SFX tech on Tremors.

Edited at 2010-01-18 09:09 pm (UTC)
forthright From: [info]forthright Date: January 18th, 2010 09:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Alas, you have to actually appear in a production with the person, so your friend technically doesn't even have a Bacon number. Apparently there are purists out there who insist that TV shows don't even count - you have to make the link only through people who appear on screen in movies.
athelind From: [info]athelind Date: January 18th, 2010 10:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
His hand was manipulating most of the monsters, and in a scene where someone gets eaten by one, that's his legs kicking as the victim is dragged into the ground.

That's HALF on-screen!

... wrong half?

[sulk] It's more than we saw of Kenny Baker in six movies ... [/sulk]

Of course, since I've never appeared on the silver screen, I don't have a Bacon Number.
forthright From: [info]forthright Date: January 19th, 2010 04:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, I think that non-purists would count that, just as they would count uncredited extras.

Although Kenny Baker was also an Ewok so he did show up in one movie, if I recall correctly?
athelind From: [info]athelind Date: January 19th, 2010 04:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Right. Ewok.

Curses! Foiled again!
jayyy From: [info]jayyy Date: January 18th, 2010 10:01 pm (UTC) (Link)

Mad Alchemy!!

Awesome, congratulations!

I wish I hadn't seen this document though, because now I'll need to try and decypher it. :\ Grr.
jones_casey From: [info]jones_casey Date: January 19th, 2010 04:21 am (UTC) (Link)
the best part of this is hearing you'll have a ham number of 1 to go with your bacon number of 3.
burning_purple From: [info]burning_purple Date: January 19th, 2010 06:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Can you tell us what show this is supposed to be for or when it will be airing? I'd love to watch it.
vureoelt From: [info]vureoelt Date: January 19th, 2010 08:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Cool. Congratulations!
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