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Irony
Another slightly complicated poll - this one is a double-barrelled survey:

Poll #906929 Irony
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Which of the following best reflects how you pronounce the word 'irony'?

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eye-earn-ee
17 (15.6%)

eye-run-ee
68 (62.4%)

I use both these pronunciations
24 (22.0%)

Which of the following best reflects how you pronounce the word 'iron'?

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eye-earn
92 (84.4%)

eye-run
8 (7.3%)

I use both these pronunciations
9 (8.3%)

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atalanta From: [info]atalanta Date: January 15th, 2007 04:46 am (UTC) (Link)
I only said "eye-run" as a kid but was corrected to "eye-earn" as the only possible correct pronunciation, at some point.
marnanel From: [info]marnanel Date: January 15th, 2007 05:58 am (UTC) (Link)
My Y3 teacher told us all that we were wrong to say "eye-earn" and that it should be "eye-run". She was Scottish.
forthright From: [info]forthright Date: January 15th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
Apparently in the Scottish educational system, hypercorrection of 'errors' was fairly commonplace. In a context where learning standard British English was almost an exercise in bilingualism for Scots-speakers, it is unsurprising that some vestiges of this hypercorrection would continue. I wouldn't be surprised at all if 'eye-run' were common in Scots to this day.
irene_adler From: [info]irene_adler Date: January 15th, 2007 05:12 am (UTC) (Link)
It doesn't quite reflect my native pronunciation, "ahrun-y." In North and Central Mississippi, we tend to swallow vowels and diphthongs preceding a strong consonant.

I was sorry I missed your last poll. This is fun!
sciolistla From: [info]sciolistla Date: January 15th, 2007 06:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Years ago, a friend dictated information from the “R & I (Records and Identification) Division” to a steno in Kansas City, Missouri. When typed, the source was indicated as the “Iron Eye Division.” It seems that your native pronunciation extends into Missouri, at least.
wytetygryss From: [info]wytetygryss Date: January 15th, 2007 05:27 am (UTC) (Link)
I chose the eye-earn varieties... it's closest but I don't think it's quite right... hm.
owlfish From: [info]owlfish Date: January 15th, 2007 09:32 am (UTC) (Link)
My parents have long been baffled as to how I ended up saing eye-run instead of the apparently correct eye-earn. When I'm thinking about it, I'll carefully pronounce it the "correct" way, but if I'm not thinking about it, I default to eye-run.
andrewwyld From: [info]andrewwyld Date: January 15th, 2007 10:11 am (UTC) (Link)
Specifically, I pronounce iron as eye-earn and I pronounce irony the other way, except when talking about something containing, resembling or possessing the properties of iron (see post on definitions of irony).
chickenfeet2003 From: [info]chickenfeet2003 Date: January 15th, 2007 11:04 am (UTC) (Link)
I ticked the best fit but I'd say, for me, the vowel in the second sylaable is a schwah rather than the longer err that 'earn' suggests to me.
sorceror From: [info]sorceror Date: January 15th, 2007 01:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heh. I say eye-run-ee, but also eye-earn.

What eye-run-ee!
sorceror From: [info]sorceror Date: January 15th, 2007 01:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
And what about alternatives for eye-RONN-ick?
forthright From: [info]forthright Date: January 15th, 2007 01:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
I very strongly suspect that there are none!
word_herder From: [info]word_herder Date: January 15th, 2007 02:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
Iron is one of those words that I hate to say (and do). I feel rather insecure about it (and ruin), thinking I never pronounce it properly.
mktgurl From: [info]mktgurl Date: January 15th, 2007 06:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hey.. do Canadians speak with an accent? (is that even possible [excluding people from Quebec])
forthright From: [info]forthright Date: January 15th, 2007 07:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, of course! Doesn't everyone? :)
urban_homestead From: [info]urban_homestead Date: January 16th, 2007 03:19 am (UTC) (Link)
While I'm talking about my ironing, should I be pronouncing the T in "fabric softener" and "softness"? I seem to be the only one in my family who does it, and now that I am going around listening, it doesn't seem that anyone else does either.
former_pirate From: [info]former_pirate Date: January 16th, 2007 03:20 am (UTC) (Link)
I put the 'eye-ron' pronunciation answer for 'irony' but, thinking about it, the way I say the letter R in 'irony' is not as distinct as it is when I say 'ironic'. It's sort of halfway between the two options. Not sure why.
dandydand From: [info]dandydand Date: November 20th, 2007 04:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

Iron and...

There surveys are fun... is there one out there for "aluminum"? :-)

I still don't understand how one gets "al-yew-min-ie-um" out of that.
forthright From: [info]forthright Date: November 26th, 2007 04:42 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Iron and...

I'm not planning one, but only because I more or less know what the answers will be, based on dialect.

Actually, the pronunciation you mention makes a lot of sense once you know two things:

- The standard UK spelling of the word is 'aluminium'
- In UK and some other English dialects, l followed by u is pronounced with a y in between, just as all English dialects do for pu in words like 'computer' and hu in words like 'human'. In fact due to the phenomenon of 'yod-dropping', the versions with the y are older than North American dialects that generally lack them.
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